Das Stundenastrologische Experiment

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Wenn Sie in Bergisch – Gladbach/bei Köln am 2. 11. 2021 um 12:58 gefragt worden wären „Wird Olaf Scholz Bundeskanzler?“ – wie und mit welchem Antwort-Ergebnis (Ja/Nein) hätten Sie das Stundenhoroskop gedeutet?

Frage am 2. November 2021 – um 12:58 Uhr – Bergisch – Gladbach bei Köln

50°59’N7°8’E

Stundenastrologische Frage: „Wird Olaf Scholz Bundeskanzler?“

Ausgangsdeutung für das Experiment – Mit Placidus Häusern gedeutet – Minute 49:18:00 in dieser Deutung – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Am1FJByAI

Mit Placidushäusern

Date of Birth (local time):2 November 2021 – 12:58  (CET)Universal Time (UT/GMT):2 November 2021 – 11:58  Local Sidereal Time (LST):15:14:26House system:Placidus systemLatitude, Longitude:50°59’N7°8’ECity:Bergisch GladbachCountry: Germany (DE)

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/calculate-birth-chart-horoscope-online/?natal_input=1&send_calculation=1&narozeni_den=2&narozeni_mesic=11&narozeni_rok=2021&narozeni_hodina=12&narozeni_minuta=58&narozeni_sekunda=00&narozeni_city=Bergisch+Gladbach%2C+Germany&narozeni_mesto_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach&narozeni_stat_hidden=DE&narozeni_podstat_kratky_hidden=&narozeni_podstat_hidden=North+Rhine-Westphalia&narozeni_input_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach%2C+Germany&narozeni_podstat2_kratky_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach&narozeni_podstat3_kratky_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach&narozeni_sirka_stupne=50&narozeni_sirka_minuty=59&narozeni_sirka_smer=0&narozeni_delka_stupne=7&narozeni_delka_minuty=8&narozeni_delka_smer=0&narozeni_timezone_form=auto&narozeni_timezone_dst_form=auto&house_system=placidus&hid_fortune=1&hid_fortune_check=on&hid_vertex=1&hid_chiron=1&hid_lilith=1&hid_uzel=1&hid_uzel_check=on&tolerance=1&hid_fortune_asp=on&aya=&tolerance_paral=1.2&zmena_nastaveni=1&aktivni_tab=&dominanta_metoda=1&dominanta_rulership=1&redraw_button=Redraw#tabs_redraw

Mit Regiomontanushäusern

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/calculate-birth-chart-horoscope-online/?natal_input=1&send_calculation=1&narozeni_den=2&narozeni_mesic=11&narozeni_rok=2021&narozeni_hodina=12&narozeni_minuta=58&narozeni_sekunda=00&narozeni_city=Bergisch+Gladbach%2C+Germany&narozeni_mesto_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach&narozeni_stat_hidden=DE&narozeni_podstat_kratky_hidden=&narozeni_podstat_hidden=North+Rhine-Westphalia&narozeni_input_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach%2C+Germany&narozeni_podstat2_kratky_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach&narozeni_podstat3_kratky_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach&narozeni_sirka_stupne=50&narozeni_sirka_minuty=59&narozeni_sirka_smer=0&narozeni_delka_stupne=7&narozeni_delka_minuty=8&narozeni_delka_smer=0&narozeni_timezone_form=auto&narozeni_timezone_dst_form=auto&house_system=regiomontanus&hid_fortune=1&hid_fortune_check=on&hid_vertex=1&hid_chiron=1&hid_lilith=1&hid_uzel=1&hid_uzel_check=on&tolerance=1&hid_fortune_asp=on&aya=&tolerance_paral=1.2&zmena_nastaveni=1&aktivni_tab=&dominanta_metoda=1&dominanta_rulership=1&redraw_button=Redraw#tabs_redraw

Mit Alcabitiushäusern

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/calculate-birth-chart-horoscope-online/?natal_input=1&send_calculation=1&narozeni_den=2&narozeni_mesic=11&narozeni_rok=2021&narozeni_hodina=12&narozeni_minuta=58&narozeni_sekunda=00&narozeni_city=Bergisch+Gladbach%2C+Germany&narozeni_mesto_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach&narozeni_stat_hidden=DE&narozeni_podstat_kratky_hidden=&narozeni_podstat_hidden=North+Rhine-Westphalia&narozeni_input_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach%2C+Germany&narozeni_podstat2_kratky_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach&narozeni_podstat3_kratky_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach&narozeni_sirka_stupne=50&narozeni_sirka_minuty=59&narozeni_sirka_smer=0&narozeni_delka_stupne=7&narozeni_delka_minuty=8&narozeni_delka_smer=0&narozeni_timezone_form=auto&narozeni_timezone_dst_form=auto&house_system=alcabitius&hid_fortune=1&hid_fortune_check=on&hid_vertex=1&hid_chiron=1&hid_lilith=1&hid_uzel=1&hid_uzel_check=on&tolerance=1&hid_fortune_asp=on&aya=&tolerance_paral=1.2&zmena_nastaveni=1&aktivni_tab=&dominanta_metoda=1&dominanta_rulership=1&redraw_button=Redraw#tabs_redraw

Mit Ganzzeichenhäusern

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/calculate-birth-chart-horoscope-online/?natal_input=1&send_calculation=1&narozeni_den=2&narozeni_mesic=11&narozeni_rok=2021&narozeni_hodina=12&narozeni_minuta=58&narozeni_sekunda=00&narozeni_city=Bergisch+Gladbach%2C+Germany&narozeni_mesto_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach&narozeni_stat_hidden=DE&narozeni_podstat_kratky_hidden=&narozeni_podstat_hidden=North+Rhine-Westphalia&narozeni_input_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach%2C+Germany&narozeni_podstat2_kratky_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach&narozeni_podstat3_kratky_hidden=Bergisch+Gladbach&narozeni_sirka_stupne=50&narozeni_sirka_minuty=59&narozeni_sirka_smer=0&narozeni_delka_stupne=7&narozeni_delka_minuty=8&narozeni_delka_smer=0&narozeni_timezone_form=auto&narozeni_timezone_dst_form=auto&house_system=whole_horizon&hid_fortune=1&hid_fortune_check=on&hid_vertex=1&hid_chiron=1&hid_lilith=1&hid_uzel=1&hid_uzel_check=on&tolerance=1&hid_fortune_asp=on&aya=&tolerance_paral=1.2&zmena_nastaveni=1&aktivni_tab=&dominanta_metoda=1&dominanta_rulership=1&redraw_button=Redraw#tabs_redraw

Ganzzeichenhäuser nach traditioneller Manier

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/calculate-traditional-chart/?narozeni_den=2&narozeni_mesic=11&narozeni_rok=2021&narozeni_hodina=12&narozeni_minuta=58&narozeni_sekunda=00&narozeni_mesto_hidden=Bergisch%20Gladbach&narozeni_stat_hidden=DE&narozeni_podstat_kratky_hidden=&narozeni_city=Bergisch%20Gladbach,%20Germany&narozeni_sirka_stupne=50&narozeni_sirka_minuty=59&narozeni_sirka_smer=0&narozeni_delka_stupne=7&narozeni_delka_minuty=8&narozeni_delka_smer=0&narozeni_timezone_form=auto&narozeni_timezone_dst_form=auto&house_system=whole_horizon&hid_fortune=&hid_fortune_check=on&hid_vertex=on&hid_vertex_check=&hid_chiron=on&hid_chiron_check=&hid_lilith=on&hid_lilith_check=&hid_uzel=&hid_uzel_check=on&fortune_asp=on&hid_fortune_asp=on&tolerance=1&tolerance_paral=1.2&aya=&&radix=1&aktivni_tab=1&house_system=whole

Astrotalk – Filmlisten

Sue Ward – Horary Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzk2bCqbMrQUQucXey4g3rN

Horary Astrology Oktober 2021 – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyPu86h9dIL0qJhNWQJlDjQ

Stundenastrologie – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwiVbGFKljLJd511QSB2kwY

Traditional Astrology – C. G. Jung – Martien Hermes – ZR from Fortune – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbExXtfKer5PBbRyR50Md-pq3

Richard Tarnas – James Hillman and Archetypal Psychology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbExHKeCb4YrEf2qwxp8Ay9l5

The Hermetica – Acyuta-bhava – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyIAmHIJEs-OkAEt3qcrZnX

Traditional Astrology in the Hellenistic / Arabic Tradition – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEycdfrFfsHbomkwCg7_pZgU

Astrological Magic – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEy2LItnydH-hSU9q_wKvyBa

The Beliefs of Ancient Astrologers – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyGzJ79oGZFpcnmB8eIMv7L

Prof. Dr. Lee Lehman – The Academic Kepler College in Seattle / Washington State – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwCWgU8Q6B35U0EmMEXMvGh – Lee Lehman Astrology  – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzKXBdiNfxdDRACzywQPENv

Oraculos – The Philosophy and the Traditional Astrology behind the Qabalistic Tarot – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbExNQ6rGxLLo9WOBTdBymbj9

Horary Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyUnBR8qQxJTDLoPLNT2ShJ

On Traditional Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwwnDK6DD2N7aZU7F2kluPy

Interviews with Traditional Astrologers – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyGn1Hsvwc6BobIn3ZpUao-

Becoming a Traditional Astrologer in the Twenty-First Century – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyrhsHA6xu72aNDQjrK-n26

Steven.E.Birchfield – Transition of Modern to Traditional Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbExxq8NJEMRM_rWbSYndcmmC

The Lots in Traditional Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbExaAhDHKChLdwS7sRwjQiLj

Chair of APAI – Sharon KNIGHT – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEy7FiZNnp0l6W05oD1gYVsU

Joseph Crane – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEz4pt81m9aTJZ6CjVnhxFAS

Astrological Magic – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzfGsBf7xAw0qITRQDVJvWP

Robert Schmidt – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzcXqhKlaRq3kt16my4ZzsV

Foresight in ancient civilisations – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbExtzq0QakjRI0_j0b5C-iQM

Grundlagen der Klassischen Astrologie – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwZk9najZn0LrgilzTLMTYU

The lots of Vettius Valens in Medieval Astrology and the consequences for 21st century Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwqXezXKiD4cpRDG0CdBN8v

Fixed Stars in Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyYbwtmkPKzI_SIC1KAt2LU

Dr. Jenn Zahrt – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwFj3csY2D_wLLhMW7h1M6v

Series on Hellenistic Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbExhIDKZYsVkpwnUE5BpUsBT

Triplicity Rulers – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbExjv2a4b2udJP3VYfkdwOOL

Postmoderne Astrolgie – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyVmc4CDKp9Ff9vV5WNXvVK

Zenmeister und Astrologe Nicolaus Klein – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzd778kJvrbCciyr5Q2SLGE

Prof. Dr. Glenn Perry – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwfK8w2Mto4FKq4heNjQedo

Geoffrey Cornelius – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzU1Bx-vcPE9_JaZEnFfYVG

Prof. Dr. Benjamin Dykes – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEybS1VXn032uvcukNtqpLAl

Prof. Charles Obert – B.A. – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwk_B_nqArcyWkskJBCzoJC

Alexander Gottwald – Astrologie – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyLUb147VAA2-lxnWjs206y

CpD2 – Astrologie – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEz8zZlJK7ArxLmaF63VypAr

21.12.2020 – Stern von Bethlehem – und jetzt – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbExraG1nAx1TbG3RyMkg5Wdv

Dr. Bernadette Brady – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEySl4IZz-Nuo-oV2UxdSLVh

David Cochrane’s Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEz-Jmy3bRTYYHKERqJXVQmL

Große Konjunktion von Jupiter und Saturn 2020 – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzPgGm4WPWYVU3gmKHJSohz

Filmliste Martien Hermes – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEw6LIRmPo0U9BRIBsqLisuj

The Oraculos Podcast – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEytoSTlYi9H9wPDd9P3LUZM

Whole Sign Houses – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyOdWGrCiCXgxkyHZyAIh9p

Lee Lehman Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzKXBdiNfxdDRACzywQPENv

John Frawley – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEx1mfNx3wPJPwefG9_xA5fr

Learning Traditional Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEy_UPcuKGRmAvCSbkvnf5z0

Astrology Debate – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwbvWucpDoSSsPX_0SbDz6l

Hermeticism – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzOL0SVTNuV1ZAUF_hIlLFC

Grimoires & Zeremonialmagie – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwyq8AXrMb6cM3vbqr3qaq_

The Picatrix – A Grimoire of Astrological Magic – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEx8y93CtG6aTWQREm48nkb2

Can Ancient Astrology Be Practiced with a Psychological Approach – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzB-nXKTiqNd6gJ1OdglIvc

Prof. Dr. Charles Burnett – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyveXTvnrBlNVEtUPV-g9Ri

Dr. Dorian Greenbaum – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbExolPRk5_tQ2b_QCrZJSvWA

Demetra George – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbExueUGW6BsCyX1P3lruBXP8

Dr. habil. Gustav Adolf Schoener – Astrologie in der Religionsgeschichte – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbExGWsluB2y0PkyGKZkZo6EP

Filmliste Dr. Helena Avelar – Luis Ribeiro – The Astra Project – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzlnmOazfbwLMJ6OvTqTCTy

Jung & Astrology: Cosmos & Character – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEymkADYTh78nnbtTHufFP41

Dr. Christof Niederwieser – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzNpYxoGAY-gvZJzBKlYoB0

The Magician and the Fool Podcast – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEync1K3e9wmLWHK-vExXs5P

Saturn Conjunct Pluto 2020 – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzi1D4xL-oz-aNK7DUbLfOp

The Astrology School with Chris Brennan – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyNyV47RAjAwb5QI4lVd-4B

Traditionelle / Hellenistische Astrologie der Griechen und Römer/Sumerer – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEytdF_DUKOsR7u_3gDuZJOj

Qabbalistische Astrologie – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzstWTlt7b2vrCnKodRvblu

Dr. Christof Niederwieser – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzQefYn72nAV8ZtbORKku19

Das Gruppenhoroskop – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbExI-GjTykuV51AxoR1edA-y

Astrology University – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEw3fMT23pqMrfMrOVkwpjQp

Evolutionary Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEy2pbnS33OVjU_ZSN2mripU

Astrologieschulen mit Beat Kofmehl – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEz7o7lY_sBniqWq6JcxVd2G

Astrological Transits – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEz-3yH-lBXBj23n_N9qm7ki

Astrologische Plauderei – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwngWVQWxHcidZFypxrUfJy

Prof. Dr. Richard Tarnas – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzjnfuB-apDFNOSxMwXKJac

Dr. Becca Tarnas – The Astrology of Jung’s Red Book – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyzvfG2MvN0rYO77Nlzyu_5

Pluto im Steinbock – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEydA8d9PRsLj2ay2GbJQMqX

Roy Gillett – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzOTuonFAy4DG4px0Vn2xP_

Prof. Dr. Nick Campion – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwZVXRagkTgfJfxR-7gS_NF

Dr. Benjamin N. DYKES – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEx60-g8bPRo–Q9_XI6hRWQ

The Jupiter-Saturn „Great Conjunction“ 2020 – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwBkQHzPdI1M9QdbfpFL6_M

Dr. Christoph Schubert-Weller – Philosoph und Astrologe – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwKojJ3ZVC8xGvAObuuamWL

Astrology Podcast – Interviews – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEzkpFBdFYB-n98FrLeDtwqi

Astrolab – Münchner Rhythmenlehre – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwGL0X_7FELfTyc6x3qiP8L

Joseph Campbell – The Hero with a Thousand Faces – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEy1YtV-TILQaGkXr4nVrsl_

Die Astrologie bei Ralph Woesner – Heldenreisenastrologie – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEztgxOOESTZSoGd27Cut6ll

Archetypal Smalltalk in Astrology – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyRdwLqDChVkTsAktorG3MI

Prof. Dr. Rupert Sheldrake – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEwJehoYdrn0GWST-mOUqCQl

Colin Wilson – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEx9Du-hqxW8sVlEAN_2_eFO

C.G. Jung – Das Rote Buch – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfUcScvQbEyUVcs4kZijmsiS5zhkwETd

Is Sahl Ibn Bishr using Whole-Sign-Houses in his Horary Astrology

The Background for this Question is Prof. Dr. Viktor Stegemann in his Edition – Prag 1942 – On Page 23

S1

S2

Page 22

Page 23

Prof. Stegemann translates into German, using the term „Tierkreiszeichen“ = Tropical-Zodiacal-Sign“ for what in modern Horary Books like Dr. Lee Lehman or Sue Ward would be the Term“House.

Dr. Benjamin Dykes in his Translation

Works of Sahl & Masha’allah

https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/1934586021/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=1251KXR7TTJMZ&keywords=ben+dykes+sahl&qid=1636090520&s=books&sprefix=ben+dykes+sahl%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C150&sr=1-1-fkmr0

uses the term „Domocile“.

Is the translation „Domocile“ on page 4 meaning „Sign“ as in the the 2nd Chapter on page 3. – Yes, I think, it does.

My conclusion:

Sahl Ibn Bishr is using Whole-Sign-Houses in his Horary Astrology

PPN:144580373 
Titel:Dorotheos von Sidon und das sogenannte Introductorium des Sahl Ibn Bišr / Viktor Stegemann
Verfasser:Stegemann, Viktor *1902-1948* 
Sonst. Personen:Dorotheus <Sidonius> *ca. v1. Jh.-1. Jh.*  ; Sahl Ibn-Bišr *ca. 786-845* 
Körperschaft/en:Orientalisches Inst., Prag
Ort/Jahr:Prag, 1942
Sprache/n:Deutsch
Umfang:88 S.
Schriftenreihe:Archiv orientální. Monografie Archívu orientálního = Monographien des Archiv Orientální ; 11
Schlagwörter:*Dorotheus <Sidonius> *ca. v1. Jh.-1. Jh.* *Dorotheus <Sidonius> *ca. v1. Jh.-1. Jh.* 
Klassifikation:Dewey Decimal Classification: 174.5Basisklassifikation: 39.01 (Geschichte der Astronomie) 

im GVK Plus

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Steven Ellis Birchfield – Norway – https://birchfieldastrology.com/__trashed/

wrote to me this:


„Volker I don’t know if you have a copy of Ben’s translation of Sahl from the original Arabic (The Astrology of Sahl B Bishr Volume I – 2019). In Ben’s Introduction he discusses Sahl’s use of whole signs and divisions and how he distinguishes between them in delineation. I use whole signs and divisions similarly as I pointed out in our talk yesterday… the midheaven falling away from the 10th sign; i.e. it is in a quadrant angle but falls away from an angular sign. In other words there are distinctions made between divisions and whole signs. But the house is still the house by sign. Sahl clearly uses whole signs. I will give you an important snippet from Ben’s Introduction:

“…in two passages Sahl emphasizes the importance of the axial degrees or stakes being “upright” ( قائم ): this has to do with whether the degree of the Midheaven falls in the expected tenth sign. If it does then it is “upright,” and the quadrant and whole-sign angles coincide; if not, then the next best is the eleventh sign; the worst is the ninth. Here Sahl enters interpretive territory. If the Midheaven is in the tenth sign, then the native’s authority (the Midheaven) is more excellent; if in the eleventh, it is next best because that succeedent sign is at least advancing towards the tenth position; if in the ninth, his authority is little established because the sign is cadent. In other words, even though the Midheaven is by definition dynamically angular, it is affected by the cadency of its sign.” (p.33 in his Introduction to Sahl)

“My impression is that angularity by sign (such as by angular triad by sign) describes a kind of default assumption about that topic’s expected benefit and manifestation in practical life; the goodness of the place (i.e., its configuration with the Ascendant) shows the worth and benefit of the topic; and the dynamic angularity shows the actual outcome, as against expectation or reputation. So if a planet indicating assets is in an angular sign such as the tenth, we can assume it will
manifest assets and benefit the reputation (that is, people’s impressions and expectations) because the tenth, being an angular, good sign related to fame, indicates that. But if the planet is there and dynamically retreating (so that the degree of the Midheaven itself is later in the sign or even in the eleventh sign), the assets he does get will be squandered. In this way the difference between whole sign and dynamic angularity largely concerns the contrast between  expectations for an archetypally happy and practical life, and actual results: the quickness, presence, greatness, and disappearance of those expectations.” (p 34 in his Introduction to Sahl)

It is more than abundantly clear in the historical record that medieval Persian astrologers, including Abu Ma’shār, did use whole sign houses. But especially the earlier medieval Persians like Māshā’allāh and Sahl made clear distinctions between power and profitability to the native. This is what I also did in my delineation of your question when I noted that while the Moon was not in the MC but was in the 10th house, it was also succeedent rather than cadent and therefore could and would advance its indications.

Best regards
Steven Birchfield A.M.A.“

Prof. Dr. Benjamin Dykes – The Astrology of Sahl b. Bishr

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